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Post by tauruschick on Jun 19, 2008 7:57:50 GMT -11
this is interesting to me, I have been swimming in the lake and live pretty close to it...this legend was featured on weird us...heres the link to the story, I think there is even a video on you tube about it. www.weirdus.com/stories/NY04.asp
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Post by lissleigh on Jun 19, 2008 8:07:28 GMT -11
this is interesting to me, I have been swimming in the lake and live pretty close to it...this legend was featured on weird us...heres the link to the story, I think there is even a video on you tube about it. www.weirdus.com/stories/NY04.aspThere is alot of articles on this! My team has it on our website too. Its even in a enclyopedia i have of haunted places around the world. the only site on Long Island in the book
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Post by tauruschick on Jun 19, 2008 8:10:59 GMT -11
lreally? its a very interesting story....hey i have a question, since there were so many native americans that lived here, where are they all buried?
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Post by lissleigh on Jun 19, 2008 8:16:42 GMT -11
there are a ton of places that they were buried theres a place in selden that cant be build on cause its a indian burial ground. I pass it all the time Im thinking of going there one night with my team members and taking a few night shots
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Post by tauruschick on Jun 19, 2008 8:26:46 GMT -11
thats sounds like a really good idea, I always wondered if there were any buried underneath the houses in the area, but I couldnt find anything on the internet about it.
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 19, 2008 8:31:07 GMT -11
That is very interesting. Has there ever been any research done to confirm the claims of one death each year? Have they found any evidence from tribal or other literature of that time that could confirm the existence of these ill-fated lovers?
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Post by lissleigh on Jun 19, 2008 8:35:04 GMT -11
That is very interesting. Has there ever been any research done to confirm the claims of one death each year? Have they found any evidence from tribal or other literature of that time that could confirm the existence of these ill-fated lovers? when someone is 'missing' they find them a week or so later in the ocean near a dock in lets say jersey. or somewhere on the coast. it is said that there is a whole in the bottom of the lake that suck the body under and they are never seen until a week or so later. people have done under water thing there and have had scuba divers there but they dont seem to find anything. they now have closed the lake off to swimmers and fishermen
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Post by lissleigh on Jun 19, 2008 8:35:49 GMT -11
thats sounds like a really good idea, I always wondered if there were any buried underneath the houses in the area, but I couldnt find anything on the internet about it. IDK where else there are burial sites. i think there is one near my job in miller place
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 19, 2008 8:44:32 GMT -11
That is very interesting. Has there ever been any research done to confirm the claims of one death each year? Have they found any evidence from tribal or other literature of that time that could confirm the existence of these ill-fated lovers? when someone is 'missing' they find them a week or so later in the ocean near a dock in lets say jersey. or somewhere on the coast. it is said that there is a whole in the bottom of the lake that suck the body under and they are never seen until a week or so later. people have done under water thing there and have had scuba divers there but they dont seem to find anything. they now have closed the lake off to swimmers and fishermen yes but the language used in this article designates uncertainty of those claims which is why I am interested in research on it. For instance... People say that at least one person has drowned each year in Lake Ronkonkoma for the past 200 years, the large majority of them male. People say lots of things, but has there ever been any kind of record tracing done to actually confirm what people say? Another myth of Lake Ronkonkoma purports that the lake is bottomless and that its depths are dotted with many caverns and subterranean passageways. And this sentence describes the bottomless pit theory as a myth. So I would absolutely love to see some research on this, perhaps even do some myself and look into this.
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Post by lissleigh on Jun 19, 2008 8:49:05 GMT -11
when someone is 'missing' they find them a week or so later in the ocean near a dock in lets say jersey. or somewhere on the coast. it is said that there is a whole in the bottom of the lake that suck the body under and they are never seen until a week or so later. people have done under water thing there and have had scuba divers there but they dont seem to find anything. they now have closed the lake off to swimmers and fishermen yes but the language used in this article designates uncertainty of those claims which is why I am interested in research on it. For instance... People say that at least one person has drowned each year in Lake Ronkonkoma for the past 200 years, the large majority of them male. People say lots of things, but has there ever been any kind of record tracing done to actually confirm what people say? Another myth of Lake Ronkonkoma purports that the lake is bottomless and that its depths are dotted with many caverns and subterranean passageways. And this sentence describes the bottomless pit theory as a myth. So I would absolutely love to see some research on this, perhaps even do some myself and look into this. I too would love to do research on this place. espaclly the bottomless pit thing. I will do what i can to find what research my founder has and see if i can post it with her permission
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 19, 2008 8:51:22 GMT -11
I too would love to do research on this place. espaclly the bottomless pit thing. I will do what i can to find what research my founder has and see if i can post it with her permission AWESOME and great idea! I'll slueth a bit too on this and we can put some interesting findings here.
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Post by tauruschick on Jun 19, 2008 8:52:36 GMT -11
Actually I think it was proven that the lake is not bottomless, its just REALLY deep, ...and I dont know about every year, but I did see some stats somewhere about the drownings... I will try and find them, I do know that there are alot of sink wholes.....and I actually went swimming in it last year, but I WILL not go out very far. LOL..
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Post by lissleigh on Jun 19, 2008 8:53:29 GMT -11
I know we have something about this on my teams myspace. I just cant access it on this computer (damn viruses) but if you wanna take a look you can myspace.com/lispiritstalkersshould be under about me or who id like to meet
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 19, 2008 9:16:41 GMT -11
I found some information, however it is on wiki... The lake is the subject of a number of urban legends, mainly rooted in the area's rich Native American heritage. For example: 1. It's bottomless (and/or empties into the Long Island Sound or other waterways). In fact, the lake is relatively deep (approx. 100 feet) at its southeastern side, and is what's known as a kettle hole lake; 2. Every year the lake sacrifices someone. Specifically, "The Lady of the Lake" calls young men out to the middle of the lake and drowns them. In all versions, the lady is an Indian princess who herself drowned in the lake, for reasons that vary depending on the story. Undoubtedly there are people who drown in the lake on occasion. From 1877 to 1977 one hundred forty people have drowned in the lake, all men. From 1963 to the present, thirty two have drowned, again, all men. 3. There is a mysterious rise and fall of the lake that doesn't have any noticeable relationship to local rainfall totals. This has not been sufficiently explained either way. The most popular story is that every year two lovers from somewhere in the area are killed by the Native American princess. Usually it is in an automobile accident because of the angry spirit. The Native Americans in Suffolk County, as opposed to Nassau County got along well with the white English. In the Dutch west end of the Island there was bitter fighting between the Native Americans and the Dutch. There is some kernel of truth in the story. The lake was considered the most sacred lake by the Indians and it was also the meeting point. The tribes controlled different parts of it. One thing is certain, the Native American princess could not have lived in what is now Ronkonkoma; a major point of the story is that the princess and her lover ran off from their own settlement to the lake. In addition the Indians did not live anywhere near the lake. They lived near the coasts of the Island. there is actually is a curse of lake ronkonkoma. people have said that when native americans were in ronkonkoma that a girl saw someone walking and fell in love with them. she asked her father if she was aloud to meet the boy and her father fordidded her from ever seeing him again. now if any boy dares to step into the middle of the lake she will pull you down to see if it is her true love. so all boys, beware, tie yourself to a tree of hide in you car., just don't go into that lake!!!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ronkonkoma,_New_York
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Post by tauruschick on Jun 19, 2008 9:48:08 GMT -11
I have heard most of that, but this part is new to me, I really should go down there and do some evps...thanks for the info "The most popular story is that every year two lovers from somewhere in the area are killed by the Native American princess. Usually it is in an automobile accident because of the angry spirit."
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