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Post by drmichaelrhodes on Nov 9, 2008 17:22:46 GMT -11
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Nov 9, 2008 18:14:51 GMT -11
Oh my! Some of the signatures with comments are really something else. For instance.... 53. This Stupid, Another jealous paranormal idiot You are a KOOK! Please get a LIFE! I bet you you are a liberal! Because your jealous, "TAPS not fair" you want to turn into paranormal activist. Your stupid goal get a show thrown off the air. You know people like you is the reason this is a sick society. Don't like it, don't watch it. If you would mind your business you wouldn't be mindin TAPS business. Please seek PSYCHOLIGICAL HELP! 7. ThisPetitionisSoStupid get a life
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Artemis
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Post by sandstone on Nov 9, 2008 18:22:30 GMT -11
Michael,
I just had a look at the petition. I had never believed the show was real, so the halloween special didn't change my mind about anything. What I am really surprised by is how many of the die-hard fans are now questioning J&G!
Serves them right for subjecting people to what seemed to be a never-ending commercial!
Sandy
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Artemis
Be gneiss, and don't take your friends for granite!
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Post by sandstone on Nov 10, 2008 7:37:46 GMT -11
The petition didn't last very long. It has already been removed!
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Post by hoobsmom on Nov 10, 2008 8:40:34 GMT -11
Shoot I didnt get there to read the comments. They sound like thy might have been funny. Where do all these Taps zealots come from. I mean seriously come on people. How sad it your life that you hold hate for someone who doesnt hold your own opinion. But I bet in real life the person is 12. Or in serious need of some meds.
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Nov 10, 2008 8:49:21 GMT -11
Yep it said it was removed because of the following reason:
This petition was removed because the author did not provide a full valid name. Anonymous petitions are not permitted. Authors are given three days to respond with their name before a petition is removed. If you are the author of this petition reply to the email we sent you with your full name. If you are the author and do not have the email we sent you, send an email to support@petitiononline.com asking us to reactivate your petition. Be sure to include your full name and petition ID in the email.
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Post by drmichaelrhodes on Nov 11, 2008 5:52:45 GMT -11
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Post by drmichaelrhodes on Nov 11, 2008 5:53:32 GMT -11
Yep it said it was removed because of the following reason: This petition was removed because the author did not provide a full valid name. This is what it said, but Dan provided his real name. Michael
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Post by drmichaelrhodes on Nov 11, 2008 6:19:10 GMT -11
53. This Stupid, Another jealous paranormal idiot You are a KOOK! Please get a LIFE! I bet you you are a liberal! Because your jealous, "TAPS not fair" you want to turn into paranormal activist. Your stupid goal get a show thrown off the air. You know people like you is the reason this is a sick society. Don't like it, don't watch it. If you would mind your business you wouldn't be mindin TAPS business. Please seek PSYCHOLIGICAL HELP! Some TAPS fans appear to lack creativity. This is the mantra we hear from die-hard fans whenever the show is criticized: the critics are jealous. These fans apparently don't realize that the charge of jealousy is compatible with the charges so motivated being genuine charges. I may very well be jealous of a co-worker's success and want to nail his ***. But if I have evidence that he's been stealing from the company, that evidence needs to be considered, regardless of what motivated my bringing it forth. This is basic logic, folks. TAPS fans continue to engage in distracting rhetoric rather than face the substantial charges made against TAPS. This is true to my experience of TAPS fans. They couldn't pass a freshman logic course if their life depended on it, and the show caters to this lack of critical thinking and pseudoscience. As it turns out, most of the critics of the show are not jealous, and it is presumptuous to suppose that they are. Some of the critics of the show are interested in getting at the truth, and they rightly take issue with a program that purports to have the same interest but systematically undermines it with their unreliable investigative methodology and "junk" theory. The trickery we've witnessed since at least the Manson Episode only further substantiates the critics' contention that this show can't be taken seriously. For those of us who actually take the paranormal seriously, it's sad to see the distorted image of the field of paranormal inquiry perpetuated by these amateurs and their sensationalist television show. Michael
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Post by sandstone on Nov 11, 2008 6:22:01 GMT -11
It is funny how GH is always given disclaimers on the Canadian networks. There are actually specific laws here against faking this stuff for profit. The laws are very old, and I can't imagine anyone actually being prosecuted, but the Space (our version of Skiffy) channel covers its butt with disclaimers anyway!
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Post by sandstone on Nov 11, 2008 6:42:45 GMT -11
It is just TV Michael! Are there really that many people who believe everything that they see on TV?
I do agree that such shows undermine and insult serious paranormal investigators. But then there are lots of shows that do the same thing to, for example, women. (Most of us are not like Barbie dolls, some of us are even good at math and science, and don't like shopping.) And just look at the typical TV scientist! (We are not all socially challenged nerds, I might be one, but I've met some very popular and good-looking scientists over the years).
Maybe we need a petition demanding better overall TV programming?
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Post by drmichaelrhodes on Nov 11, 2008 8:32:52 GMT -11
It is just TV Michael! Are there really that many people who believe everything that they see on TV? I do agree that such shows undermine and insult serious paranormal investigators. But then there are lots of shows that do the same thing to, for example, women. (Most of us are not like Barbie dolls, some of us are even good at math and science, and don't like shopping.) And just look at the typical TV scientist! (We are not all socially challenged nerds, I might be one, but I've met some very popular and good-looking scientists over the years). Maybe we need a petition demanding better overall TV programming? No s***. :-) And to answer your second question. Yes, America is a nation of sheep. Look at television generally in the United States. It's all about "reality" TV which is not reality at all but had to be created because people had already lost their sense of reality. So now they suffer from a double delusion. I don't know about you Canadians, but surely the average American television viewer is a model of gullibility and no model of minimal conceptual clarity. Our kids lose their minds in video games and can't read a damn sentence in a book. It's all part of what I call the growing culture of no-think. No-thinkers are particularly vulnerable to shows like Ghost Hunters because they retain a curiosity about the paranormal but they absorb it in an impulsive way and this curiosity never rises to a reflective mode. It is transformed into a pseudo-reflective mode which is indistinguishable from ideology. Hell, at least when Nancy Murphy and I were experimenting with Orange Sunshine back at UCLA, we ended up writing papers of some academic merit. We slammed our heads into EMF chambers and blasted our brains with upwards of 200 mG, direct hits. We floated out the laboratory windows but our minds were free and still entirely clear. (By the way, those experiments were never officially recorded and the experimental drug use was not funded by UCLA. I just want to be clear about that!) So, where the hell was I? Ghost Hunters has extremely high ratings. Most people who watch it take the show seriously. They don't watch simply to get a glimpse of Kris's butt or to create websites debunking the evidence. The show presents itself as serious. Most regard it as such. This is true about many paranormal television shows. I'd say the same thing about them. I need a vodka.
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Post by ♥~KarinaKay~♥ on Nov 11, 2008 10:05:51 GMT -11
[ Ghost Hunters has extremely high ratings. Well, not really, that's just what Jason wants us to believe. GH averages a 2.0, which makes it the highest ranked skiffy show at the moment, but GH isn't even in CABLE tv's top 20. By comparison, the no. 1 ranked cable show, The Closer, averages a 4.3. Heck, skiffy isn't even in the top 10 CABLE networks.
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Post by hoobsmom on Nov 11, 2008 15:29:24 GMT -11
It is just TV Michael! Are there really that many people who believe everything that they see on TV? I do agree that such shows undermine and insult serious paranormal investigators. But then there are lots of shows that do the same thing to, for example, women. (Most of us are not like Barbie dolls, some of us are even good at math and science, and don't like shopping.) And just look at the typical TV scientist! (We are not all socially challenged nerds, I might be one, but I've met some very popular and good-looking scientists over the years). Maybe we need a petition demanding better overall TV programming? No s***. :-) And to answer your second question. Yes, America is a nation of sheep. Look at television generally in the United States. It's all about "reality" TV which is not reality at all but had to be created because people had already lost their sense of reality. So now they suffer from a double delusion. I don't know about you Canadians, but surely the average American television viewer is a model of gullibility and no model of minimal conceptual clarity. Our kids lose their minds in video games and can't read a damn sentence in a book. It's all part of what I call the growing culture of no-think. No-thinkers are particularly vulnerable to shows like Ghost Hunters because they retain a curiosity about the paranormal but they absorb it in an impulsive way and this curiosity never rises to a reflective mode. It is transformed into a pseudo-reflective mode which is indistinguishable from ideology. Hell, at least when Nancy Murphy and I were experimenting with Orange Sunshine back at UCLA, we ended up writing papers of some academic merit. We slammed our heads into EMF chambers and blasted our brains with upwards of 200 mG, direct hits. We floated out the laboratory windows but our minds were free and still entirely clear. (By the way, those experiments were never officially recorded and the experimental drug use was not funded by UCLA. I just want to be clear about that!) So, where the hell was I? Ghost Hunters has extremely high ratings. Most people who watch it take the show seriously. They don't watch simply to get a glimpse of Kris's butt or to create websites debunking the evidence. The show presents itself as serious. Most regard it as such. This is true about many paranormal television shows. I'd say the same thing about them. I need a vodka. I dont think of myself as a sheep. I think I am more of a cuddly bunny.
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Post by LCellini on Nov 11, 2008 16:28:16 GMT -11
I signed that thing
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