Post by xXSpookyXx on May 6, 2008 11:10:47 GMT -11
Here is an interesting thing I found from an Author of a book about a haunting whom actually knew and worked with the warrens.
I've posted about the Warrens in another thread, Cleo, but at the risk of
repeating myself, I felt the urge to do it again here, with more details.
You
asked for Warren stories ... well, I've got one. Please don't take this as
a
personal attack, because it's not, really. Neither is it an opinion. This
really happened. I'm going to tell you what I *think* of the Warrens, but
first I'm going to tell you what I *know* of the Warrens.
I wrote IN A DARK PLACE: THE STORY OF A TRUE HAUNTING, in which a family had
lived in a house that used to be a mortuary (allegedly...I never saw the
inside of the house myself), which was, according to the Warrens, infested
with demons. But the family involved, which was going through some serious
problems like alcoholism and drug addiction, could *not* keep their story
straight, and I became very frustrated; it's hard writing a non-fiction book
when all the people involved are telling you different stories. So I went
to
Ed Warren and told him my problem. He told me not to worry, that the family
was "crazy". I was shocked. He said, "All the people who come to us are
crazy. You think *sane* people would come to us?" He knew I'd written a
lot
of horror novels prior to that, so he told me to just make the story up
using
whatever details I could incorporate into the book, and make it scary.
Because I couldn't afford the attorney fees it would take to get out of the
contract, I had to go through with the book, but I didn't like it. Since
then, other writers who have worked with the Warrens have told me the EXACT
SAME STORY, but they've done so quietly because they don't want to make any
waves with publishers.
I spent several days with the Warrens during that time. I spent time with
them in their home and ate with them and went on long drives with them. Of
the two, Lorraine is the sanest. She's an "enabler". Years ago, before
their career in the "supernatural" began, Ed suffered from mental illness.
It was bad enough to keep him from working, and the only way he could make
money was to hand paint haunted houses on dinnerplates and sell them door to
door. Once Ed decided that Lorraine was "psychic", selling the haunted
house
plates eventually led to "investigating" haunted houses. At first, they
found "ghosts". But after the tremendous success of THE EXORCIST -- both
the
novel and the movie -- ghosts suddenly became demons. If you go back and
trace their career, you can see the sudden change. Almost overnight, all
ghosts were really demons trying to possess residents, and sooner or later,
the demons anally raped someone. It never fails, every damned time, the
Warrens' demons bend somebody over a bed or a sink and beat down the back
door, if you know what I mean. From my time spent with the Warrens, I
learned from Ed that their job is not really to "investigate" so much as it
is to take the stories told by these families -- most of whom are dealing
with REAL problems like alcoholism, drug addiction, mental illness, and/or
domestic abuse, problems that are buried by their supernatural fantasies,
which are supported and made tangible by the very eager Warrens -- and
arrange them into a saleable package that will make a good book, and
hopefully a movie.
Not only are the Warrens frauds, not only do they give a bad name to people
who are SERIOUSLY investigating paranormal phenomena, I think they're EVIL
because of the way they exploit families already deep in despair and ready
to
shatter. I can ignore a simple con job ... but the Warrens are actually
damaging people who are already damaged, who are desperate and vulnerable,
using them for the sake of a book, maybe a lucrative movie sale, or another
story to add to their traveling dog and pony show. Before I worked on that
book, I'd followed the adventures of Ed and Lorraine Warren faithfully since
I was a little boy. I was excited to work with them. Boy, was that a big
disappointment. It's nice to believe there's a smiling, grandparently
couple
out there chasing demons ... but not when you know they're hurting people
for
the sake of publicity and the almighty dollar.
Ray Garton
groups.google.com/group/alt.folklore.ghost-stories/msg/4ce9a0178e6c2330
I've posted about the Warrens in another thread, Cleo, but at the risk of
repeating myself, I felt the urge to do it again here, with more details.
You
asked for Warren stories ... well, I've got one. Please don't take this as
a
personal attack, because it's not, really. Neither is it an opinion. This
really happened. I'm going to tell you what I *think* of the Warrens, but
first I'm going to tell you what I *know* of the Warrens.
I wrote IN A DARK PLACE: THE STORY OF A TRUE HAUNTING, in which a family had
lived in a house that used to be a mortuary (allegedly...I never saw the
inside of the house myself), which was, according to the Warrens, infested
with demons. But the family involved, which was going through some serious
problems like alcoholism and drug addiction, could *not* keep their story
straight, and I became very frustrated; it's hard writing a non-fiction book
when all the people involved are telling you different stories. So I went
to
Ed Warren and told him my problem. He told me not to worry, that the family
was "crazy". I was shocked. He said, "All the people who come to us are
crazy. You think *sane* people would come to us?" He knew I'd written a
lot
of horror novels prior to that, so he told me to just make the story up
using
whatever details I could incorporate into the book, and make it scary.
Because I couldn't afford the attorney fees it would take to get out of the
contract, I had to go through with the book, but I didn't like it. Since
then, other writers who have worked with the Warrens have told me the EXACT
SAME STORY, but they've done so quietly because they don't want to make any
waves with publishers.
I spent several days with the Warrens during that time. I spent time with
them in their home and ate with them and went on long drives with them. Of
the two, Lorraine is the sanest. She's an "enabler". Years ago, before
their career in the "supernatural" began, Ed suffered from mental illness.
It was bad enough to keep him from working, and the only way he could make
money was to hand paint haunted houses on dinnerplates and sell them door to
door. Once Ed decided that Lorraine was "psychic", selling the haunted
house
plates eventually led to "investigating" haunted houses. At first, they
found "ghosts". But after the tremendous success of THE EXORCIST -- both
the
novel and the movie -- ghosts suddenly became demons. If you go back and
trace their career, you can see the sudden change. Almost overnight, all
ghosts were really demons trying to possess residents, and sooner or later,
the demons anally raped someone. It never fails, every damned time, the
Warrens' demons bend somebody over a bed or a sink and beat down the back
door, if you know what I mean. From my time spent with the Warrens, I
learned from Ed that their job is not really to "investigate" so much as it
is to take the stories told by these families -- most of whom are dealing
with REAL problems like alcoholism, drug addiction, mental illness, and/or
domestic abuse, problems that are buried by their supernatural fantasies,
which are supported and made tangible by the very eager Warrens -- and
arrange them into a saleable package that will make a good book, and
hopefully a movie.
Not only are the Warrens frauds, not only do they give a bad name to people
who are SERIOUSLY investigating paranormal phenomena, I think they're EVIL
because of the way they exploit families already deep in despair and ready
to
shatter. I can ignore a simple con job ... but the Warrens are actually
damaging people who are already damaged, who are desperate and vulnerable,
using them for the sake of a book, maybe a lucrative movie sale, or another
story to add to their traveling dog and pony show. Before I worked on that
book, I'd followed the adventures of Ed and Lorraine Warren faithfully since
I was a little boy. I was excited to work with them. Boy, was that a big
disappointment. It's nice to believe there's a smiling, grandparently
couple
out there chasing demons ... but not when you know they're hurting people
for
the sake of publicity and the almighty dollar.
Ray Garton
groups.google.com/group/alt.folklore.ghost-stories/msg/4ce9a0178e6c2330