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Post by krystalmoore1986 on Jun 20, 2008 13:02:36 GMT -11
Feel free to respond to my post spook but I am not going to post in this thread anymore, feels like beating a dead horse. I dont care who does or doesnt believe in loose change theories, I can agree to disagree and don't need the last word. We don't need another thirteen pages of this so say your peace and lets move on....
*****Edited to add--- I am sorry if somehow this statement came across as rude. I just think all that needs to be said has been said. I have no more productive input on this topic. If others do feel free to carry on.
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 20, 2008 13:07:27 GMT -11
The statement I made did not suggest that people can not believe whatever they want to believe. If some one believes that the world is flat, and the sky is purple that is their own prerogative. If a scientific finding shows that the world is "round" and then becomes the official scientific fact, then it is up to those who believe it is "flat" to PROVE that it is flat and not up to the ones that found out that it was in fact, round to prove anything. So I stand by my statement. If a group decides to come up with a claim that goes against official findings or facts of science then it is most certainly THEIR job to prove their claim. The reason conspiracy theories are called theories is because they are not facts, or proven as such, they are claims. I could claim that there is an ice cream stand on Jupiter and believe in my claim. But it is not up to the scientists to prove to me that there isn't one there, it is up to me to prove that there is as the claim maker. I am surprised at these statements as no one is trying to tell you what to believe or not to believe. Believe whatever you want to in life. It is your personal business and none of mine. I stand by my statement because the official findings were back up with many facts, beyond a doubt. No attempts at spurious correlations, perverting of statements, nor pretending that loved ones can't tell if their own families are calling them from airplanes will change the fact. If you believe this, fine, if you don't fine. It is your own business and right. Feel free to respond to my post spook but I am not going to post in this thread anymore, feels like beating a dead horse. I dont care who does or doesnt believe in loose change theories, I can agree to disagree and don't need the last word. We don't need another thirteen pages of this so say your peace and lets move on.... Once again this is your business if you choose to talk more in a thread or not, and not anyone else. Just like it is your business what you choose to believe or do not believe, and no one else. People having a discussion with you about it are not doing anything wrong to you either or trying to force you one way or another. It's a discussion thread not about having the last word. People might not always agree with you on everything and anything like you may not always agree with them on everything or anything as well. But this is something that I love about other people, because it would be quite boring if we all believed and thought the same way.
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Post by CougarBob on Jun 20, 2008 16:39:18 GMT -11
Spooky! Krystal! You girls settle down right now, or I'm turning this car around and we're going home. And no dessert either! Play nice!
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 20, 2008 16:52:29 GMT -11
Spooky! Krystal! You girls settle down right now, or I'm turning this car around and we're going home. And no dessert either! Play nice or I'm gonna start hugging! Actually I appreciate her viewpoint. I think the conversation would get pretty drab without others offering various ideas, opinions and input. She is providing thought, and a look at it from a different lens which is a good thing. I just did not want her to think anyone was trying to impose on her beliefs, or anything, as those are hers and her rights regardless of who does or does not agree. I give her props for all that and her feedback. But she is also right, that it may have been discussed to death in the other topic that was done.
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Post by krystalmoore1986 on Jun 20, 2008 17:53:59 GMT -11
Thanks spook all I meant was I am not going to go back and forth over and over like everyone allready did for thirteen pages in the other thread, and I did/n't want anyone to come out with a statement like Oh she didnt come back and say something, she cant stand her ground, she cant defend her beliefs, because it's not that I can't, I just don't have the desire or the time to invest in debating this topic. Nothing that spooky said bothered or offended me in any way bob, I just stated that I have a different way of looking at things than her. I think people should have to prove their innocence, spooky thinks people should prove someones guilt. No harm no foul just two different opinions stated out there in the cyber world, don't worry bob, it's hard to tell if someone is heated when you are reading 12 point font, lol. I dont think either of us were fighting, don't turn the car around, we wanna still ride the teacups and see mickey!!!!!!!
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 20, 2008 18:05:57 GMT -11
Thanks spook all I meant was I am not going to go back and forth over and over like everyone allready did for thirteen pages in the other thread, and I did/n't want anyone to come out with a statement like Oh she didnt come back and say something, she cant stand her ground, she cant defend her beliefs, because it's not that I can't, I just don't have the desire or the time to invest in debating this topic. Nothing that spooky said bothered or offended me in any way bob, I just stated that I have a different way of looking at things than her. I think people should have to prove their innocence, spooky thinks people should prove someones guilt. No harm no foul just two different opinions stated out there in the cyber world, don't worry bob, it's hard to tell if someone is heated when you are reading 12 point font, lol. I dont think either of us were fighting, don't turn the car around, we wanna still ride the teacups and see mickey!!!!!!! Rock on! Very very well said, props again! That's how I saw it too! And definitely choosing not to continue beating a dead horse should never impress anyone as some one that can't hold their position. I have no doubt that you can hold your position, defend, discuss it, and you definitely throw out some excellent food for thought!
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Post by krystalmoore1986 on Jun 20, 2008 18:50:52 GMT -11
You know, all the posters in that ten page auderbach thread on skiffy should come over here and learn how to agree to disagree, and when to quit posting when the posting is going in circles from us!!! Now let's all have a martini!!
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Post by CougarBob on Jun 20, 2008 21:07:04 GMT -11
Okay. Good girls. You each can ride the spinning teacups and have a large triple scoop ice cream cone. And, you can have sprinkles. ;D
That's one of the best things about this forum is that people really can discuss to some kind of conclusion. Even if the conclusion is, "we agree to disagree." I was joking earlier, but seriously, good job, ladies.
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Post by dreamsinger on Jul 8, 2008 16:08:01 GMT -11
No I would just like some reasons why the buildings collapsed at free fall speed. They said that part was debunked and moved on, but I didnt see them adress that part at all. They showed me how the planes could make the building collapse, but not why or how they collapsed at free fall speed. What speed should they fall at? Free fall speeds depend on air resistance and whether or not the object could fall long enough to reach free fall. To suggest they are higher would be to say they were forced down and to suggest they are lower would suggest either an event defying physics or a massive upwards rush of air.
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Post by Pinkberry on Jul 9, 2008 9:13:59 GMT -11
No I would just like some reasons why the buildings collapsed at free fall speed. They said that part was debunked and moved on, but I didnt see them adress that part at all. They showed me how the planes could make the building collapse, but not why or how they collapsed at free fall speed. What speed should they fall at? Free fall speeds depend on air resistance and whether or not the object could fall long enough to reach free fall. To suggest they are higher would be to say they were forced down and to suggest they are lower would suggest either an event defying physics or a massive upwards rush of air. From that height? Id say maximum velocity
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Post by dreamsinger on Jul 9, 2008 12:59:00 GMT -11
What speed should they fall at? Free fall speeds depend on air resistance and whether or not the object could fall long enough to reach free fall. To suggest they are higher would be to say they were forced down and to suggest they are lower would suggest either an event defying physics or a massive upwards rush of air. From that height? Id say maximum velocity Which is the speed they fell at.
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Post by Pinkberry on Jul 9, 2008 16:00:44 GMT -11
From that height? Id say maximum velocity Which is the speed they fell at. Its George Bush's fault.
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Post by dreamsinger on Jul 10, 2008 8:35:33 GMT -11
Which is the speed they fell at. Its George Bush's fault. Did he run over your dog too? Be thankful it wasn't Cheney or you might wind up with a face full of buckshot. LOL!
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Post by Pinkberry on Jul 11, 2008 5:45:09 GMT -11
George Bush gave me a parking ticket this morning...
Except that he was big, black, and had popped-out eyes. I hate parking enforcement. sofsdjfmndsfnsdfndsnf eff you george bush and your parking enforcement crew of brown shirts.
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Post by CougarBob on Nov 14, 2008 12:49:31 GMT -11
I see where the debunkers are at it again. They are again making unsubstantiated claims and posting "facts" that cannot be validated.
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