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Post by xXSpookyXx on Dec 9, 2008 18:32:44 GMT -11
I never said anything about a legal age of maturity. Okay, I suppose then I had misinterpreted when you said... The only person who legally and chronologically had the age and so-called maturity was the mom. But I will have to disagree on the point that Lori Drew was the only one at a legal age of being looked at and possibly charged as an adult. Although I may be misunderstanding you again so forgive me on that. Partially adult by law? How do you figure? The only difference legally is that one is of drinking and gambling age while the other is not. At 21, she will then be entitled to those rights as well. However, ever notice that 21 year olds do not seem to be all that different from their 19 year old peers? Just bringing that up as a point of interest which I also believe supports the statement concerning there is no magical thing that occurs that turns some one mentally adult over night. I agree on this point. It also doesn't cause some people to ever mature into adults from what I have seen. lol You wouldn't believe how many people I have met that I've just shaken my head and said to myself "I can't believe you are actually older than me." But when you attempted to kiddify her, it seemed like it was to treat her like a kid being a fool when in reality, by her age, she should know better than to involve herself in situations that bully, harass or torment a little 13 year old. I knew better than that when I was 19 didn't you? I bet you won't find many people at all that would say that at that age they didn't know any better when it came to being cruel, and bullying children. That's true Exactly right. Without her help, this plan may never came to fruition. For all we know she was the first to toss the idea out there when her and the other girl were talking about it. In fact, I suspect it was her, since the thoughts of this plan are rather abstract for a 13 year old to come up with but not for a 19 year old. This is where maturity levels come into play as well. You would think she, being the oldest and assumed wisest out of the group would have told the 19 year old and her daughter that it was a bad idea and very bad way of dealing with conflicts. But instead she joined right in on it, and according to some reports so did her husband. I agree here as well. Even at 13 she would be aware enough to know that the whole motive in doing what they did wasn't just to find stuff out but to inflict emotional harm on the other girl. But look at what kind of a person she has guiding her in life. Her mother behaving more like a kid herself and teaching her that this is a good idea, when a real mother would have been trying to help both the fighting friends sort through their differences and teaching better ways.
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Post by CougarBob on Dec 10, 2008 6:19:39 GMT -11
She is a legally partial adult. She can do somethings as an adult, but not others. At 19 she can vote and die in a war. At 21, suddenly she can drink. Aren't our lawmakers smart!
As for 21 year olds compared to 19 ... you make my point for me, Hon, maturity is a mix of life experience and intelligence, IMO. I've known 19 year olds who were much more mature than 25 year olds. But, not in every aspect of their lives. You always seem to encounter some aspect where they display their true chronological age. You just cannot ignore life experience.
The rest of this we seem to agree on.
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Dec 11, 2008 11:22:43 GMT -11
She is a legally partial adult. She can do somethings as an adult, but not others. At 19 she can vote and die in a war. At 21, suddenly she can drink. Aren't our lawmakers smart! lol Very smart. These are at least two out of many reasons I challenge the drinking age. [/size][/font][/quote]But this is also the point I have been saying when I say that a 19 year old can not immediately and without thought be dismissed as just a kid. Mentally some just never seem to grow up and will live a life doing stupid, thoughtless things. This is why, inspite of this fact of life, we do have to have the barometer set in place to determine by which age are we not going to tolerate this very much. At 19 she might have been very ignorant or immature adult wise for all I know, but I do know at 19 she was more than old enough to have known better than what she did.
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