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Post by xXSpookyXx on May 16, 2008 18:00:21 GMT -11
I don't know! lol Maybe there really is something wrong with my eyes! lol I still do not see the face even in the one that you say does look like a face. Could you dumb it down for me a bit, and point out how and what I am suppose to look at to recognize as a face? lol *blushes* I feel so blonde today! lol You need a really good imagination - kind of like trying to "hear" what an EVP is saying. But here is a labeled view. THANK YOU SO MUCH! I needed you to do that, I was going crazy trying to see this space face. lol Reminds me again of how people will look for recognizable patterns in things like have you ever noticed the interesting shapes and faces in clouds or groups of leaves in trees? Kinda like that.
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Post by stick28 on May 16, 2008 18:05:56 GMT -11
You need a really good imagination - kind of like trying to "hear" what an EVP is saying. But here is a labeled view. THANK YOU SO MUCH! I needed you to do that, I was going crazy trying to see this space face. lol Reminds me again of how people will look for recognizable patterns in things like have you ever noticed the interesting shapes and faces in clouds or groups of leaves in trees? Kinda like that. Yeah, or the Virgin Mary on a cheese sandwich, or a potato chip that looks like Richard Nixon, or shadow people floating through the living room. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by CougarBob on May 17, 2008 1:25:07 GMT -11
The history of Mars has been divided in epochs:
1. Early Noachian up to 4.400 million years ago 2. Late Noachian to 3.800 million years ago 3. Hesperian to 3.500 million years ago 4. Early Amazonian to 2.300 million years ago 5. Middle Amazonian to 700 million years ago 6. Late Amazonian to present. Ahh, I remember the Hesperian period. What fun it was to cruise to the lake. Good times ... good times ...
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Post by stick28 on May 17, 2008 2:42:22 GMT -11
All this Mars science is fine, but remember that the scientific part of the discussion started with Coug's mention of the TV special that described how our fabricated world would decay if people were removed from the planet. That show didn't say how people disappeared - just that people were gone, but everything else, plants, animals, bugs, were all left intact. It didn't consider a catastrophic event like a near-miss asteroid that ripped away the atmosphere, or a comet strike that obliterated virtually everything.
That doesn't appear to be the case with Mars. It's not an issue of lack of intelligent life - it seems to be an absence of any life.
And as far as dating possible life to over a million years ago - well, these are the same scientists who can't agree on the age of the pyramids. Or for that matter, how long man has been on this planet. They take tiny tidbits of rover and telescope info and infer an awful lot. That's OK until we get more info. But we need to remember that it's just supposition and conjecture based on the smallest bits of evidence.
So, at least for me, I'll reserve final judgement until we get there, or they get here.
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Post by xXSpookyXx on May 17, 2008 17:29:40 GMT -11
I am not sure that Mars ever had the capacity to sustain homeostasis for any kind of life form.
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Post by CougarBob on May 18, 2008 5:49:34 GMT -11
I am not sure that Mars ever had the capacity to sustain homeostasis for any kind of life form. Hey, watch your language, Spooky!
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Post by JoeGeist on May 18, 2008 7:34:16 GMT -11
I am not sure that Mars ever had the capacity to sustain homeostasis for any kind of life form. There is some evidence they water may have been free flowing in the past. If this is true Mars was warmer than what it is today. I suspect if anything did live there it was microbial similar to the "supposed" fossils in meteorite ALH 84001.
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Post by chrissy on May 18, 2008 10:45:30 GMT -11
ROFL!!!
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Post by stick28 on May 19, 2008 6:43:07 GMT -11
I am not sure that Mars ever had the capacity to sustain homeostasis for any kind of life form. I'm not sure planet-wide homeostasis is that much of an issue. That's more an issue for the individual organism. Look at earth - there are shrimp that live near volcanic vents where the water temp is 700 degrees - way higher than the temp we'd use to boil the little buggers - yet they thrive. And there is life that survives in acid, and under extremely high pressure. And there is life in caves without sunlight, and there is life surviving in sub-zero temperatures. One thing we are learning right here on earth is that extreme environments do not appear to be a deterrent to life. And given that, I can't imagine Mars would be lifeless simply based on the extreme environment. If life ever got a foothold there, it's likely still there, IMO. Is Mars ready for an NFL franchise? We'll, I'd be really surprised if that were the case. But I would not be at all surprised to find simple, and even complex life there.
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Post by stick28 on May 19, 2008 7:25:04 GMT -11
In spring 2003 my brother-in-law and I took a x-country MC trip. I don't recall exactly where this pic was taken, but somewhere in the southwest. We came across some native Americans selling jewelry along the road, and pulled over to look. My B-I-L took this picture. If you saw my "members photos" picture you might be able to tell that the black HD Heritage was mine (since replaced with a 2007 Road King). After we returned my B-I-L gave me a CD with his pics, and on reviewing them, I noticed the "object." It's hard to see, so I copied, enlarged, and pasted the enlargement into the original pic. You're guess is as good as mine. It's interesting.
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Post by xXSpookyXx on May 19, 2008 8:15:00 GMT -11
I am not sure that Mars ever had the capacity to sustain homeostasis for any kind of life form. I'm not sure planet-wide homeostasis is that much of an issue. That's more an issue for the individual organism. Look at earth - there are shrimp that live near volcanic vents where the water temp is 700 degrees - way higher than the temp we'd use to boil the little buggers - yet they thrive. And there is life that survives in acid, and under extremely high pressure. And there is life in caves without sunlight, and there is life surviving in sub-zero temperatures. One thing we are learning right here on earth is that extreme environments do not appear to be a deterrent to life. And given that, I can't imagine Mars would be lifeless simply based on the extreme environment. If life ever got a foothold there, it's likely still there, IMO. Is Mars ready for an NFL franchise? We'll, I'd be really surprised if that were the case. But I would not be at all surprised to find simple, and even complex life there. Very true and excellent points. It seems for a species, even a one cell organism even during harsh conditions here on earth, the species or cell adapted in order to ensure survival in certain conditions.
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Post by chrissy on May 19, 2008 13:10:10 GMT -11
Thats a great pic stick. I dont know about it being an UFO, I know that it has the "ideal" look of what we would expect a pic of a UFO to be, but I dont know about it. I think Im too much of an UFO skeptic.
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Post by stick28 on May 19, 2008 15:16:33 GMT -11
Thats a great pic stick. I dont know about it being an UFO, I know that it has the "ideal" look of what we would expect a pic of a UFO to be, but I dont know about it. I think Im too much of an UFO skeptic. I'd have to argue that it's unidentifed, apparently flying, and an object. So by definition, it's a UFO. More than that, who can say?
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Post by xXSpookyXx on May 20, 2008 12:07:54 GMT -11
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Post by chrissy on May 20, 2008 13:50:00 GMT -11
Thats a great pic stick. I dont know about it being an UFO, I know that it has the "ideal" look of what we would expect a pic of a UFO to be, but I dont know about it. I think Im too much of an UFO skeptic. I'd have to argue that it's unidentifed, apparently flying, and an object. So by definition, it's a UFO. More than that, who can say? that is true. You knwo , I think that "UFO" really is too much of a vague title for the "alleged alien aircraft" that they want to relate UFOs to. crap , I can drop a turd from a JetBlue plane and it be called a UFO! lol
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