nowhammies
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Post by nowhammies on Jun 20, 2008 10:49:43 GMT -11
I do the same thing - forget to eat.
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Post by chrissy on Jun 20, 2008 10:57:40 GMT -11
oh and since no one else has yet .. here is my before and "during" since im not done The reason I am posting these is because , I am one of tose that no matter how much weight i lose i feel like I never change in appearance. I never notice till I look at before pics side by side.. and THAT is when I see it and it keeps me motivated. So, Im putting these up for my motivation and also , for those who need motivation too i will post a few randomly, comparison so you guys can see. Just please.. be kind lol BEFORE DURING
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 20, 2008 11:57:17 GMT -11
It's written there because it typically works (not trying to sound like a pretentious jerk). Anything "new" is usually just a gimic. I was a trainer for about two years and the problem was simply that people did one or the other. Ate well, gave into fad diets but did little exercise. Or they exercised and ate what they wanted. As we get older our metabolism will slow, which means we have to work harder at burning fat. I am a runner, and I find that I have to get more mileage in now a days to maintain my fast metabolism. Our bodies don't start burning fat until about 20 minutes of cardio for the typical person. So if people want to actually lose weight, they have to push themselves. I see people always trying to find the easy way, but in all actuality it's a battle. I've seen 50 year old overweight people lose weight by following these things so that's what I go off of. But, then again everyone’s body is different I guess. Excellent points because exercise is absolutely necessary to lose weight. There is no easy quick fix to it. Those who are serious minded really need to consider some kind of cardio that they might enjoy along with a diet that works for them. I personally do not discourage any kind of diet, even low carbs nor low fat fad types AS LONG AS the person is also, considering a reasonable eating plan and plans to maintain their exercise routine so that they don't fall into the yo yo rut of losing, gaining all back..losing...gaining..etc.
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Post by krystalmoore1986 on Jun 20, 2008 12:36:00 GMT -11
oh and since no one else has yet .. here is my before and "during" since im not done The reason I am posting these is because , I am one of tose that no matter how much weight i lose i feel like I never change in appearance. I never notice till I look at before pics side by side.. and THAT is when I see it and it keeps me motivated. So, Im putting these up for my motivation and also , for those who need motivation too i will post a few randomly, comparison so you guys can see. Just please.. be kind lol BEFORE DURING Hey woman you are super hot either way and It looks like you are losing a lot its especially noticable in your face I can see a big difference looks like you are doing very great, keep it up!!
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Post by icon636 on Jun 20, 2008 12:40:06 GMT -11
Keep it up Chrissy.
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Post by blondeness on Jun 20, 2008 12:54:12 GMT -11
Chrissy- you're hot! Either way!
Your recent avatar pic is stunning you sexy thang you.
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Post by blondeness on Jun 20, 2008 13:40:25 GMT -11
Our bodies don't start burning fat until about 20 minutes of cardio for the typical person. So if people want to actually lose weight, they have to push themselves. I see people always trying to find the easy way, but in all actuality it's a battle. I've seen 50 year old overweight people lose weight by following these things so that's what I go off of. But, then again everyone’s body is different I guess. Posted by icon636 on Today at 10:40am Sorry but i have to agree with Embers on this one. I too have devoted alot of time to studying diet's. If you want to see the true masters in dieting, look no further than avid bodybuilders. Sorry Icon and Ebersrise, I take issue with your posts for the reasons stated below: Embersrise, perhaps you had once been a trainer, but you should know there are several validated schools of thought, and 20 minutes of cardio is certainly debatable, at best. I know this because I asked my dr's out of that specific concern. I was directed to this following excerpt by Craig Ballantly, a published bodybuilder: "Myth: You Have To Do Cardio For 20 Minutes Before You Burn Fat. When I hear this, I picture a fat-burning switch in my body that turns on only after I've been doing "cardio" for 20 minutes. But what if I only exercise for 19 minutes and 59 seconds? Are you telling me that I won't have burned any fat? That's ridiculous." Also this:"We’re burning fat all the time, even while you sit here and read this message. Sure, exercise increases our fat burning, but it’s not as though the first 20 minutes of any workout don’t burn fat. That makes no sense at all! I’ll show you how the short, burst exercise system helps you achieve more fat loss in less than half the time of a regular cardio workout." I also take issue with your revelation that we need to push ourselves to lose weight. This is something that can be advised only to people you know are healthy and able to take on the challenges. I was carefully advised by both my family physician and orthopedist as to the best exercise and time limits for my particular condition. I have a severely torn meniscus that is on the verge of being entirely removed out of my right knee if I do not take every precaution to save it. There is no hope of repairing it- if I blow it, the whole thing is gone. All this to say, pushing myself to lose weight will result in pushing myself onto the operation table. I choose to tone up with caution. Unlike you, I cannot go out and pound the pavement and run on any hard surface at all. I know it sounds like I'm on the defensive here, but Icon and Embersrise, you both are men, and in your 20's. Your gender, lifestyle, and AGE are vastly different than mine. Before you dole out the advice realize the diversity of your audience. Everyone is different, and the blanket statement of eating lean chicken or fish and jogging your arse off does not apply to everyone. You cannot give out advice, really, without knowing individual needs. Leave this to doctors, nutritionists and personal trainers. I'm done ranting.
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 20, 2008 13:55:30 GMT -11
Chrissy- you're hot! Either way! Your recent avatar pic is stunning you sexy thang you. I agree, no matter what weight Chrissy is, she's one gorgeous woman!
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CougarBob
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Post by CougarBob on Jun 20, 2008 14:04:20 GMT -11
Our bodies don't start burning fat until about 20 minutes of cardio for the typical person. So if people want to actually lose weight, they have to push themselves. I see people always trying to find the easy way, but in all actuality it's a battle. I've seen 50 year old overweight people lose weight by following these things so that's what I go off of. But, then again everyone’s body is different I guess. Posted by icon636 on Today at 10:40am Sorry but i have to agree with Embers on this one. I too have devoted a lot of time to studying diet's. If you want to see the true masters in dieting, look no further than avid bodybuilders. Sorry Icon and Ebersrise, I take issue with your posts for the reasons stated below:
Embersrise, perhaps you had once been a trainer, but you should know there are several validated schools of thought, and 20 minutes of cardio is certainly debatable, at best. I know this because I asked my dr's out of that specific concern. I was directed to this following excerpt by Craig Ballantly, a published bodybuilder:
"Myth: You Have To Do Cardio For 20 Minutes Before You Burn Fat. When I hear this, I picture a fat-burning switch in my body that turns on only after I've been doing "cardio" for 20 minutes. But what if I only exercise for 19 minutes and 59 seconds? Are you telling me that I won't have burned any fat? That's ridiculous."
Also this:
"We’re burning fat all the time, even while you sit here and read this message. Sure, exercise increases our fat burning, but it’s not as though the first 20 minutes of any workout don’t burn fat. That makes no sense at all! I’ll show you how the short, burst exercise system helps you achieve more fat loss in less than half the time of a regular cardio workout."
I also take issue with your revelation that we need to push ourselves to lose weight is something that can be advised only to people you know are healthy and able to take on the challenges. I was carefully advised by both my family physician and orthopedist as to the best exercise and time limits for my particular condition. I have a severely torn meniscus that is on the verge of being entirely removed out of my right knee if I do not take every precaution to save it. There is no hope of repairing it- if I blow it, the whole thing is gone. All this to say, pushing myself to lose weight will result in pushing myself onto the operation table. I choose to tone up with caution. Unlike you, I cannot go out and pound the pavement and run on any hard surface at all.
I know it sounds like I'm on the defensive here, but Icon and Embersrise, you both are men, and in your 20's. Your gender, lifestyle, and AGE are vastly different than mine. Before you dole out the advice realize the diversity of your audience. Everyone is different, and the blanket statement of eating lean chicken or fish and jogging your arse off does not apply to everyone.
You cannot give out advice, really, without knowing individual needs. Leave this to doctors, nutritionists and personal trainers.
I'm done ranting. I agree with JJ. My best friend is probably in the best shape of anyone I know. She was an Olympic-class runner. She used to follow the "no pain, no gain" philosophy and it cost her 4 or 5 knee surgeries in the days before they did arthroscopic and 2 or 3 since that technique was developed. Your body becomes aerobic at around 12 minutes at 80% heart rate.
But go see your doctor first. Don't play Russian roulette with your body.
And, finally, warm up and cool down and stretch stretch stretch.
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Post by xXSpookyXx on Jun 20, 2008 14:08:31 GMT -11
These are very important points that JJ and Bob bring up. Always make sure, especially if you are currently under the care of a physican, that a certain diet and exercise program is suitable for you.
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Post by ♥~KarinaKay~♥ on Jun 21, 2008 0:17:47 GMT -11
I do the same thing - forget to eat. I can honestly say this has never happened to me before.
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Post by chrissy on Jun 21, 2008 5:42:32 GMT -11
Thanks guys , last night I had a lil binge night lol Damn midnight chinese food pickies . Bob ! you should have been there! Chicken fingers , beer and a campfire! it was heaven ! when Weekends are a downfall for me , thats when Im around the crazy italians and all we do is eat for hours on end. I think im going to have to start avoiding them for the summer lol
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Post by icon636 on Jun 21, 2008 13:45:29 GMT -11
Our bodies don't start burning fat until about 20 minutes of cardio for the typical person. So if people want to actually lose weight, they have to push themselves. I see people always trying to find the easy way, but in all actuality it's a battle. I've seen 50 year old overweight people lose weight by following these things so that's what I go off of. But, then again everyone’s body is different I guess. Posted by icon636 on Today at 10:40am Sorry but i have to agree with Embers on this one. I too have devoted alot of time to studying diet's. If you want to see the true masters in dieting, look no further than avid bodybuilders. Sorry Icon and Ebersrise, I take issue with your posts for the reasons stated below: Embersrise, perhaps you had once been a trainer, but you should know there are several validated schools of thought, and 20 minutes of cardio is certainly debatable, at best. I know this because I asked my dr's out of that specific concern. I was directed to this following excerpt by Craig Ballantly, a published bodybuilder: "Myth: You Have To Do Cardio For 20 Minutes Before You Burn Fat. When I hear this, I picture a fat-burning switch in my body that turns on only after I've been doing "cardio" for 20 minutes. But what if I only exercise for 19 minutes and 59 seconds? Are you telling me that I won't have burned any fat? That's ridiculous." Also this:"We’re burning fat all the time, even while you sit here and read this message. Sure, exercise increases our fat burning, but it’s not as though the first 20 minutes of any workout don’t burn fat. That makes no sense at all! I’ll show you how the short, burst exercise system helps you achieve more fat loss in less than half the time of a regular cardio workout." I also take issue with your revelation that we need to push ourselves to lose weight. This is something that can be advised only to people you know are healthy and able to take on the challenges. I was carefully advised by both my family physician and orthopedist as to the best exercise and time limits for my particular condition. I have a severely torn meniscus that is on the verge of being entirely removed out of my right knee if I do not take every precaution to save it. There is no hope of repairing it- if I blow it, the whole thing is gone. All this to say, pushing myself to lose weight will result in pushing myself onto the operation table. I choose to tone up with caution. Unlike you, I cannot go out and pound the pavement and run on any hard surface at all. I know it sounds like I'm on the defensive here, but Icon and Embersrise, you both are men, and in your 20's. Your gender, lifestyle, and AGE are vastly different than mine. Before you dole out the advice realize the diversity of your audience. Everyone is different, and the blanket statement of eating lean chicken or fish and jogging your arse off does not apply to everyone. You cannot give out advice, really, without knowing individual needs. Leave this to doctors, nutritionists and personal trainers. I'm done ranting. JJ, I see your point and though I know neither of us are doctors, I was merely agreeing with Embers on the basics. He also placed terms such as 'typical' and 'everyones different'. To say that all advice, if not from a doctor is invalid, then that also could be a mistake. Of course all ppl are different and need to see doctors, trainers, etc. and get individualized diets, workouts, etc. to fit there specific needs. I'm not speaking for Embers but I believe he was alluding to the basics and routine faults of dieters etc. Also, being a hardgainer personally, doctors sometimes don't give you advice that can be gained from reading sites and interacting with a myriad of people that are actually in your shoes and can help push you along with their success. (Yes, there are people who struggle to gain weight) and it effects them as much as people who struggle with losing weight. When he talks of it being a battle and having to push yourself, he is 100% correct. Does that mean pushing yourself is pounding the pavement. Or doing irresponsible amounts of cardio. Or starvations diets and doing something that you can never physically do etc. I think not. Its a battle of the senses and having to overcome your 'personal' demons. I don't think I have ever seen anyone either trying to gain or lose weight that hasn't had to endure pain in some form.Whether it be physical or mental, great or small. The arguments and theories of the paranormal(for example) fall pale in comparison to the world of fitness and dieting. I would never encourage you to do anything you couldn't do or going against your personal/physical/ Dr.'s parameters. Also, I was merely giving you an example with site I posted hoping that It would spur you or someone else in the future to explore (not saying that 'YOU haven't) their options and realize the immense amount of info that is available to be custom tailored to one's specific needs. I simply gave up on the idea that I could ever gain weight until others finally pounded into my thick skull that I simply wasn't taking in enough calories and had to eat more than a normal person. Finally, I can only imagine the pain of overweight people from knowing how it felt to have to force feed myself and break ALOT of barriers that I thought I could never do. Was I perfectly fine in the eyes of most people and general health. Yes I was. In my eyes, not so much. So in my final post in this thread I encourage everyone to push forward, However much or little that may be.
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Post by super24mac on Jun 21, 2008 13:50:23 GMT -11
Just stopping by to say, keep up the good work. Super24Mac supports your weight loss efforts...
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Post by EMBERSRISE on Jun 21, 2008 15:11:58 GMT -11
Our bodies don't start burning fat until about 20 minutes of cardio for the typical person. So if people want to actually lose weight, they have to push themselves. I see people always trying to find the easy way, but in all actuality it's a battle. I've seen 50 year old overweight people lose weight by following these things so that's what I go off of. But, then again everyone’s body is different I guess. Posted by icon636 on Today at 10:40am Sorry but i have to agree with Embers on this one. I too have devoted alot of time to studying diet's. If you want to see the true masters in dieting, look no further than avid bodybuilders. Sorry Icon and Ebersrise, I take issue with your posts for the reasons stated below: Embersrise, perhaps you had once been a trainer, but you should know there are several validated schools of thought, and 20 minutes of cardio is certainly debatable, at best. I know this because I asked my dr's out of that specific concern. I was directed to this following excerpt by Craig Ballantly, a published bodybuilder: "Myth: You Have To Do Cardio For 20 Minutes Before You Burn Fat. When I hear this, I picture a fat-burning switch in my body that turns on only after I've been doing "cardio" for 20 minutes. But what if I only exercise for 19 minutes and 59 seconds? Are you telling me that I won't have burned any fat? That's ridiculous." Also this:"We’re burning fat all the time, even while you sit here and read this message. Sure, exercise increases our fat burning, but it’s not as though the first 20 minutes of any workout don’t burn fat. That makes no sense at all! I’ll show you how the short, burst exercise system helps you achieve more fat loss in less than half the time of a regular cardio workout." I also take issue with your revelation that we need to push ourselves to lose weight. This is something that can be advised only to people you know are healthy and able to take on the challenges. I was carefully advised by both my family physician and orthopedist as to the best exercise and time limits for my particular condition. I have a severely torn meniscus that is on the verge of being entirely removed out of my right knee if I do not take every precaution to save it. There is no hope of repairing it- if I blow it, the whole thing is gone. All this to say, pushing myself to lose weight will result in pushing myself onto the operation table. I choose to tone up with caution. Unlike you, I cannot go out and pound the pavement and run on any hard surface at all. I know it sounds like I'm on the defensive here, but Icon and Embersrise, you both are men, and in your 20's. Your gender, lifestyle, and AGE are vastly different than mine. Before you dole out the advice realize the diversity of your audience. Everyone is different, and the blanket statement of eating lean chicken or fish and jogging your arse off does not apply to everyone. You cannot give out advice, really, without knowing individual needs. Leave this to doctors, nutritionists and personal trainers. I'm done ranting. JJ, I see your point and though I know neither of us are doctors, I was merely agreeing with Embers on the basics. He also placed terms such as 'typical' and 'everyones different'. To say that all advice, if not from a doctor is invalid, then that also could be a mistake. Of course all ppl are different and need to see doctors, trainers, etc. and get individualized diets, workouts, etc. to fit there specific needs. I'm not speaking for Embers but I believe he was alluding to the basics and routine faults of dieters etc. Also, being a hardgainer personally, doctors sometimes don't give you advice that can be gained from reading sites and interacting with a myriad of people that are actually in your shoes and can help push you along with their success. (Yes, there are people who struggle to gain weight) and it effects them as much as people who struggle with losing weight. When he talks of it being a battle and having to push yourself, he is 100% correct. Does that mean pushing yourself is pounding the pavement. Or doing irresponsible amounts of cardio. Or starvations diets and doing something that you can never physically do etc. I think not. Its a battle of the senses and having to overcome your 'personal' demons. I don't think I have ever seen anyone either trying to gain or lose weight that hasn't had to endure pain in some form.Whether it be physical or mental, great or small. The arguments and theories of the paranormal(for example) fall pale in comparison to the world of fitness and dieting. I would never encourage you to do anything you couldn't do or going against your personal/physical/ Dr.'s parameters. Also, I was merely giving you an example with site I posted hoping that It would spur you or someone else in the future to explore (not saying that 'YOU haven't) their options and realize the immense amount of info that is available to be custom tailored to one's specific needs. I simply gave up on the idea that I could ever gain weight until others finally pounded into my thick skull that I simply wasn't taking in enough calories and had to eat more than a normal person. Finally, I can only imagine the pain of overweight people from knowing how it felt to have to force feed myself and break ALOT of barriers that I thought I could never do. Was I perfectly fine in the eyes of most people and general health. Yes I was. In my eyes, not so much. So in my final post in this thread I encourage everyone to push forward, However much or little that may be. JJ Icon is right, I was listing the basics, and my brothers a doctor and those are the intitial recomendations that they give a person trying to lose weight. At the bottom of my post I also made the statement that everybody's body is different. This is what has worked in my experiences as a personal trainer and from people I've trained. I'm not meaning to sound defensive either, I was simply stating some basic ideas for people struggling to lose weight. Nobody has to take my advice, by all means I'm no health expert, just puting my 2 cents in like everyone else.
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